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 Post subject: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:14 pm 
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Parent: Phalaenopsis equestris

Forms/varieties: Notable Cultivars
alba ‘Pimlico’ ‘Seagrove’s Gabriel’
aurea ‘Malibu Mellow Yellow’
cyanochillus ‘Martel’s Blue’
illicos
leucaspis ‘Melissa’
rosea ‘Zuma Rosea’

Ploidy – Mostly diploid. Some tetraploids but few clones have been counted.
Confirmed Tetraploids: ‘Riverbend’ AM/AOS;

Notable Awarded Cultivars:
’Royal Ruby’ FCC/AOS 1993
’Candor Violette’ FCC/AOS 1995
‘Gino’ JC/AOS 1990
‘Mt. Vernon’ AM/AOS 1994
‘Pink Panther’ HCC/AOS 1988

Notable Progeny:
1896 Cassandra (equestris x stuartiana)
1923 Venus (lindenii x equestris)
1963 Purple Gem (equestris x pulcherrima)
1986 Kuntrarti Rarashati (venosa x equestris)
2002 Be Tris (Be Glad x equestris)
2009 Tying Shin Eros (Tying Shin Cupid x equestris)

Progeny Results - General
Registered hybrids as seed parent: 71 (as of 1/2011)
Registered hybrids as pollen parent: 452 (as of 1/2011)

Positive traits
Floriferous – many flowers on gracefully arching inflorescence
Compact
Vigorous
Good color in some progeny

Negative traits
Open form, sepals often reflexed and petals may cup forward
Smaller flowers
Flower presentation – flowers in a whorl, making shingling less likely




Progeny results - Specific
1) Vigor/growth: easy to flower and may bloom at different times of the year, some prone to form keikis

2) Plant size - Variable, must compact.

3) Leaf size: variable, most 4” to 8”

4) Leaf shape: variable

5) Stem/Presentation - medium, some branching, flowers closely spaced, arranged in a whorl (360 degrees around inflorescence).

6) Flower
a) number – few to many

b) size – usually small (<2”), some can be a bit larger (~ 2”)

c) color/pattern – color variable, often pink or white with blush. Progeny often show stippling, fine spotting, or striping. Often more heavily patterned on lateral sepals.

d) lip – small to medium, flat, sometimes colored

e) substance – fair, sometimes poor

f) season – variable, often winter to spring, may bloom for extended periods

g) other
•Branching: Although thought to contribute a branching flowering habit, this trait is more heavily associated with other species. Some equestris will branch, but many will only form an unbranched inflorescence.
•Capsule maturation: P. equestris has a relatively short maturation time from the time of pollination to dehiscence - 3 to 5 months.

Other factors (ploidy concerns, lineage ambiguity, etc.) – Peloria is fairly common, many peloric clones are available and are highly variable. Another concern is ploidy – uncounted plants have been bred with complex tetraploids in order to create new multifloral hybrids, which has created many lines with questionable genetics.

References: AOS Awards Data; RHS Database;


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:23 pm 
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In an attempt to get the ball rolling again, here is a draft parent worksheet for P. equestris. I just used the template from Tony's first worksheet with a few tweaks to work with a species. I don't have OrchidWiz or AQ+ so there are definitely more recent awards out there. With so many hybrids and cultivars, the real challenge is not choosing what to inlcude, but what not to include.

I'm still relatively new to this compared to many of you here, so I am counting on your input. Please add any comments and suggestions.


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 10:36 pm 
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Thanks for all your hard work, Royal. I really love equestris.


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:15 am 
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Great job. very well done.

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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:54 am 
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Thanks Royal! I appreciate the time and effort you put into this. I will take a pic of my "Pink Pather" this weekend and post. I will also try and get some OW info up there as well. As you pointed out, there is a ton of info re: equestris. I will do my best to be selective. I think building up info on the primaries made with equestris will be fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:41 am 
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Thanks for the kind comments, everyone. But please don't hesitate to point out any mistakes or important info I may have overlooked.

Tony, I had fun doing this and learned a lot. I already have a few other species in mind - and then some primaries. I hope others will crank out a few on their favorite parents in each of his or her own preferred breeding direction. I know that not everyone is into species and primaries. Thanks for the encouragement.


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:47 pm 
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Royal, how did you compile all this information?


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:45 pm 
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I got the awards data from AOS. They have a big pdf with awards data in the members only section. I'm sure it's not up to date though. I used the RHS database for the progeny. Specific info for the progeny was just my attempt at describing what I see and what I've learned here and elsewhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
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Thanks, again, Royal, that's a lot of research and grunt work. My equestris 'Orange' is in spike for the first time for me. I really appreciate learning about this species.


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 Post subject: Phal equestris "Pink Panther"
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 Post subject: Re: Parent Worksheet - P. equestris
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I will add a comment and a pic.

Comment: I think Tom Harper mentioned in his talk about Phal breeding that the different types of flower, didn't always breed the way you expect. I can't remember, but I think the alba often gives you reds and pinks and there was something about one of the reds. I guess I haven't provided much information here, but maybe someone else can complete this for me.

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