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 Post subject: Phal. sanderiana 'Dark'
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:18 pm 
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This plant traces back to Hugo Freed. I used to have sanderiana 'South Olive' and that was a lot "darker" than 'Dark' ... but this has nice conformation so far. Let's see how it holds up as more flowers open ...

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I agree that some darker plants exist, but this one has indeed a good shape.
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S'wonderful! I can remember the old Freed catalogs and ordering seedlings from them. I've been hoping to find some good sanderiana clones for breeding. Are you breeding yours any?


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Ha! Breeding sanderiana ... yes, I am considering a selfing and possible primaries ... but really ... sanderiana is kind of a summer flowering pink, other than that, it is tough ... what does it really give you? ;-)

Grande Conde ( x schilleriana) might be good, with an eye to remaking Dyah Redita eventually (Grande Conde x pulcherrima). Do not think I saved enough schilleriana pollen this year.

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Remaking Mrs. J. H. Veitch (x lueddemanniana) would be really cool. :wink:


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rbedard wrote:
sanderiana is kind of a summer flowering pink, other than that, it is tough ... what does it really give you? ;-)


Hey now, P. sanderiana has beautiful silver green foliage. And the flower last for months in the summer time - flowering into Fall.

I did the following -

Phal. Doc Charles (amboinensis (N9291) x Phal. sanderiana)
Phal. (bellina - 99347 x Phal. sanderiana)
Phal. (Phal. Emily Grimball 'Orchid Konnection' HCC/AOS x sanderiana)
Phal. Doc Charles (amboinensis 'Jennifer' HCC/AOS x sanderiana)
Phal. Hans Burgeff (violacea - Zuma x sanderiana)
Phal. (amboinensis (2903 X ROC) (ok96140) x sanderiana)

I made these crosses in September of 2005. I had plenty of flowers and I just pollinate whatever is available then.

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I know that sounded negative, but it wasn't meant that way. ;-)

I do not have many sanderiana hybrids in my collection ... and I believe there is a reason for that ... ;-)

I think Painted Desert is about the only thing I have that has that high of a percentage of sanderiana contribution.

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It's okay Robert. I don't have any issue with you not liking P. sanderiana for breeding. I would have an issue if you don't like P. gigantea... (ha ha).

Call me crazy. I buy plants with beautiful foliage but with crippled flowers. :wink:

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You have any seedlings of those crosses yet Peter? They sound really aweosme. :D


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Maynard Michels laughs at me (in a goood way) because I am so obsessed with foliage ... if you ever had an opportunity to look at a greenhouse full of Herb Hager's Phals, you would notice that the leaves look different. They are short wide and round. That is no accident, and anybody that has marketed wholesale Phals knows that long strappy leaves are a pain; short round leaves are a plus.

Also, when the plant is not in flower, isn't it great to have an attractive plant with pretty foliage, rather than a strappy leaf thing trying to take more than it's share of the bench space?

Peter, my only problem with gigantea hybrids is, I don't have enough of them. ;-)

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